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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite don&#039;t understand how people can support this Steve Pavilina. I read his tips for college students and thought that they are not for the average person. He sounds way too unrealistic. And just take a look at his articles. They are always about “me me me me”. I mean he uses “I” too much in them.  He gets so busy talking about himself that in the end he fails to write any details about the original topic. 

And please, people, do take a look at the logo of his site. He is an illuminati agent.  The logo just does not have the pyramid, but also lightning bolt symbol whose other meaning is Lucifer. And oh do see what is surrounding the pyramid. It is “illumination”, another term for Lucifer in freemasonry.  

The guy has been described as very successful with his nonsense articles. However, it is not because people flock to his sit…the main reason is that his site is always on the top of search results. SEO experts know it. And of course, an illuminati agent will enjoy a good ride in the virtual world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite don&#8217;t understand how people can support this Steve Pavilina. I read his tips for college students and thought that they are not for the average person. He sounds way too unrealistic. And just take a look at his articles. They are always about “me me me me”. I mean he uses “I” too much in them.  He gets so busy talking about himself that in the end he fails to write any details about the original topic. </p>
<p>And please, people, do take a look at the logo of his site. He is an illuminati agent.  The logo just does not have the pyramid, but also lightning bolt symbol whose other meaning is Lucifer. And oh do see what is surrounding the pyramid. It is “illumination”, another term for Lucifer in freemasonry.  </p>
<p>The guy has been described as very successful with his nonsense articles. However, it is not because people flock to his sit…the main reason is that his site is always on the top of search results. SEO experts know it. And of course, an illuminati agent will enjoy a good ride in the virtual world.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please friends, do NOT listen to ANYTHING Steve Pavlina says. He pushes the occult under the guise of &quot;self-development.&quot; If you value your salvation through the Lord Jesus-do not fool with this guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please friends, do NOT listen to ANYTHING Steve Pavlina says. He pushes the occult under the guise of &#8220;self-development.&#8221; If you value your salvation through the Lord Jesus-do not fool with this guy!</p>
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		<title>By: MARCO 2 REAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARCO 2 REAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi mate  its marco u.k real rapper you and Steve Pavlina working together good cop bad cop  i posted my comment about steve a few weeks ago now i see steve pavline personal blog looking like egypt useing egyptain symblos look mate dont mind steve useing them if hes saying stuff about egytain wisdom !! but dont use or roots and symblos just to make is blog look or better !!than it is know what the symblo REALLY mean before he PUTS THEM UP  if he does best take the people to the roots of it all and that is us &gt;&gt;  (( NO MORE LIES POSITIVE MINDS )) &gt;&gt; WHO KNOW WHAT THE SYMBLO MEAN AND ITS A WAY OF LIFE FOR US REAL BRO.S ON THE STREETS AND A WAY OF LIFE FOR US TO LIVE AND TRY TO STAY ALIVE ANT NO PLAY THING !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi mate  its marco u.k real rapper you and Steve Pavlina working together good cop bad cop  i posted my comment about steve a few weeks ago now i see steve pavline personal blog looking like egypt useing egyptain symblos look mate dont mind steve useing them if hes saying stuff about egytain wisdom !! but dont use or roots and symblos just to make is blog look or better !!than it is know what the symblo REALLY mean before he PUTS THEM UP  if he does best take the people to the roots of it all and that is us &gt;&gt;  (( NO MORE LIES POSITIVE MINDS )) &gt;&gt; WHO KNOW WHAT THE SYMBLO MEAN AND ITS A WAY OF LIFE FOR US REAL BRO.S ON THE STREETS AND A WAY OF LIFE FOR US TO LIVE AND TRY TO STAY ALIVE ANT NO PLAY THING !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be just as ignorant as yourself in regards to a vegan diet, but at the time, like yourself, I had not actually tried it. 

Before making any wild claims, why dont you experience it for yourself? I have been vegan for 2 years now, once a meat eating, careless savage, but never again. 

Not only has being a vegan made me stronger, more intelligent (yes I had been watching my IQ), more alive, happier, but it also has enhanced my perceptions of the world, my consciousness, and has certainly made me more aware. 

Maybe you should consider actually trying it first before posting such an ignorant post, just for the sake of your SEO, obviously. 

You are clearly just upset as you are not as successful, and not knowing or understanding why? has made you a bit angry. 

Get a life, stop trying to prevent the spread of the truth. 

I am not part of any societies, however, you have mocked scientologists without actually trying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be just as ignorant as yourself in regards to a vegan diet, but at the time, like yourself, I had not actually tried it. </p>
<p>Before making any wild claims, why dont you experience it for yourself? I have been vegan for 2 years now, once a meat eating, careless savage, but never again. </p>
<p>Not only has being a vegan made me stronger, more intelligent (yes I had been watching my IQ), more alive, happier, but it also has enhanced my perceptions of the world, my consciousness, and has certainly made me more aware. </p>
<p>Maybe you should consider actually trying it first before posting such an ignorant post, just for the sake of your SEO, obviously. </p>
<p>You are clearly just upset as you are not as successful, and not knowing or understanding why? has made you a bit angry. </p>
<p>Get a life, stop trying to prevent the spread of the truth. </p>
<p>I am not part of any societies, however, you have mocked scientologists without actually trying it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;ve been reading Steve&#039;s articles for a while now and I have to say, he does provoke you to think for yourself and expand your horizons. I don&#039;t agree with him on everything but I agree with the overall premise about exploring one&#039;s beliefs.

About raw food: Raw food diets and raw veganism are NOT the same as a general vegetarian diet. Vegetarians do not consume any products that involve killing animals but they do consume dairy and sometimes, eggs, too. 
A general vegan diet includes lots of cooked food such as grains, lentils, beans, etc. One can also have calcium-fortified soy milk, coconut milk, etc. to make up for any calcium deficiency.
If you eat a well balanced vegetarian diet, you can get all the essential nutrients except for maybe B12 which can be obtained by using nutritional yeast or supplements. It has been proved by doctors and nutritionists. People in countries such as India have consumed regular cooked vegetarian diets that include grains, vegetables, fruits, dairy and spices and they have enjoyed excellent health for centuries. 

The raw food diet that Steve Pavlina has advocated is a little extreme and may not be suitable for everyone. I would personally monitor my health through a doctor if I were to undertake something like this. 
Anyway, the main reason for vegetarianism/veganism is animal rights and welfare and that is what Steve is talking about when he asks people to raise their awareness of what they are eating. These practices have been around for centuries in Eastern cultures and even among Catholic mystics. No one absolutely needs meat to survive, the Paleolithic man ate meat for survival because there was little of anything else.
In fact, if you really look at evolution, humans descended from apes who eat more fruits and seeds than meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading Steve&#8217;s articles for a while now and I have to say, he does provoke you to think for yourself and expand your horizons. I don&#8217;t agree with him on everything but I agree with the overall premise about exploring one&#8217;s beliefs.</p>
<p>About raw food: Raw food diets and raw veganism are NOT the same as a general vegetarian diet. Vegetarians do not consume any products that involve killing animals but they do consume dairy and sometimes, eggs, too.<br />
A general vegan diet includes lots of cooked food such as grains, lentils, beans, etc. One can also have calcium-fortified soy milk, coconut milk, etc. to make up for any calcium deficiency.<br />
If you eat a well balanced vegetarian diet, you can get all the essential nutrients except for maybe B12 which can be obtained by using nutritional yeast or supplements. It has been proved by doctors and nutritionists. People in countries such as India have consumed regular cooked vegetarian diets that include grains, vegetables, fruits, dairy and spices and they have enjoyed excellent health for centuries. </p>
<p>The raw food diet that Steve Pavlina has advocated is a little extreme and may not be suitable for everyone. I would personally monitor my health through a doctor if I were to undertake something like this.<br />
Anyway, the main reason for vegetarianism/veganism is animal rights and welfare and that is what Steve is talking about when he asks people to raise their awareness of what they are eating. These practices have been around for centuries in Eastern cultures and even among Catholic mystics. No one absolutely needs meat to survive, the Paleolithic man ate meat for survival because there was little of anything else.<br />
In fact, if you really look at evolution, humans descended from apes who eat more fruits and seeds than meat.</p>
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		<title>By: MARCO 2 REAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARCO 2 REAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my youtube channel is &gt;&gt;&gt; marco2real &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;


facebook marco roberts 

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book - (( THE DIGITAL DREAM INFORMATION PACK ))

going to be as smart or even smarter  as steve Pavlina one day ha make that my goal in life ha make that every body goal around the world in life and boy!!! what a world this will be we will be all flying in or dreams and when we all awake in the morning to life and to start a new day we will be flying  in this real life too !! on earth ha ha steve i seen this vision first ha ha i said it first   but thanks for  makeing me see it steve ha ha ha for steve marco u.k rapper just jokeing who knows it may not be a joke lets all fly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my youtube channel is &gt;&gt;&gt; marco2real &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>facebook marco roberts </p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/marco2real" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/marco2real</a> </p>
<p>book &#8211; (( THE DIGITAL DREAM INFORMATION PACK ))</p>
<p>going to be as smart or even smarter  as steve Pavlina one day ha make that my goal in life ha make that every body goal around the world in life and boy!!! what a world this will be we will be all flying in or dreams and when we all awake in the morning to life and to start a new day we will be flying  in this real life too !! on earth ha ha steve i seen this vision first ha ha i said it first   but thanks for  makeing me see it steve ha ha ha for steve marco u.k rapper just jokeing who knows it may not be a joke lets all fly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MARCO 2 REAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARCO 2 REAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STEVE P ..IS A VERY SMART GUY I MUST SAY MY SELF READ SOME OF IS WORK ITS REALLY GOOD THIS GUY WHO IS SAYING STEVE IS WRONG IS SMART TO BEST GET IN THE GAME THE GUY WHO IS SAYING STEVE IS WRONG IS USEING STEVE ENERGY AND FAME TO GET IS NAME OUT THERE IS ENERGY AND NAME IS WEAK SO HE AS TO USE STEVE NAME TO GET NOTICE ANYWAY I NEED NOT STEVE OR THIS GUY TO MANIFEST MY ENERGY BUT THEY MAY NEED ME AND EVEN YOU WHO IS READING THIS COMMENT RIGHT NOW WHO AM I MY NAME IS MARCO U.K REAL POSITIVE UNDERGROUND RAPPER ..ALBUM CALL NO MORE LIES POSITIVE MINDS ,,ON YOUTUBE ALLSO MY BOOK CALL (( THE DIGITAL DREAM INFORMATION PACK )) &lt;&lt; GOOGLE UP THIS NAME SHOWING YOU HOW TO HIT UPTO 15 TO 20.000 PEOPLE AWEEK WITH ANYTHING YOU WOT TO SELF OR MAKE THEM SEE HOPE THIS INFO AND COMMENTS HELP YOU OUT STEVE IS A SMART COOL GUY HES O.K LIKE HIM MARCO U.K REAL P RAPPER BLESSSSSSSSSS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STEVE P ..IS A VERY SMART GUY I MUST SAY MY SELF READ SOME OF IS WORK ITS REALLY GOOD THIS GUY WHO IS SAYING STEVE IS WRONG IS SMART TO BEST GET IN THE GAME THE GUY WHO IS SAYING STEVE IS WRONG IS USEING STEVE ENERGY AND FAME TO GET IS NAME OUT THERE IS ENERGY AND NAME IS WEAK SO HE AS TO USE STEVE NAME TO GET NOTICE ANYWAY I NEED NOT STEVE OR THIS GUY TO MANIFEST MY ENERGY BUT THEY MAY NEED ME AND EVEN YOU WHO IS READING THIS COMMENT RIGHT NOW WHO AM I MY NAME IS MARCO U.K REAL POSITIVE UNDERGROUND RAPPER ..ALBUM CALL NO MORE LIES POSITIVE MINDS ,,ON YOUTUBE ALLSO MY BOOK CALL (( THE DIGITAL DREAM INFORMATION PACK )) &lt;&lt; GOOGLE UP THIS NAME SHOWING YOU HOW TO HIT UPTO 15 TO 20.000 PEOPLE AWEEK WITH ANYTHING YOU WOT TO SELF OR MAKE THEM SEE HOPE THIS INFO AND COMMENTS HELP YOU OUT STEVE IS A SMART COOL GUY HES O.K LIKE HIM MARCO U.K REAL P RAPPER BLESSSSSSSSSS</p>
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		<title>By: Jasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Greens aren&#039;t as healthy when cooked&quot;.  Oh Gawd, the ignorance on this site!  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greens aren&#8217;t as healthy when cooked&#8221;.  Oh Gawd, the ignorance on this site!  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Milinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

I&#039;m reading Pavlina&#039;s articles, there are agreements &amp; disagreements, we should not act as dump. We should get his learning points and practice (if you feel that you want to improve) I have selected and practice and improved lot. as explained by him its gradual process and you should understand examined how your mind &amp; body works.

Milinda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading Pavlina&#8217;s articles, there are agreements &amp; disagreements, we should not act as dump. We should get his learning points and practice (if you feel that you want to improve) I have selected and practice and improved lot. as explained by him its gradual process and you should understand examined how your mind &amp; body works.</p>
<p>Milinda</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott, I enjoyed the article. Yes, I think Steve is &quot;wrong&quot; about diet. Here is a post by an individual who became almost deathly ill after following Steve&#039;s diet: http://paleodietlifestyle.com/how-steve-pavlina-almost-killed-me/

Of course, one case of an over-eager Pavlina follower doesn&#039;t condemn a whole lifestyle, but many prominent vegans and raw food proponents are reversing their stance on  animal products (I&#039;m too lazy to provide links, but I read about this at length and the info is out there). 

People get very sensitive about the dietary lifestyle they commit to, especially when ethics and animal rights are concerned, so I usually decline to engage in that discussion.

Steve has a different take on the Law of Attraction and all that jazz, but I don&#039;t think it gets people any closer to their goals. 
Unfortunately, his forums are filled with a bunch of people determined to become millionaires, but with very little clue as to how to go about it (besides putting an inspiring statement about it in their forum signature).

Steve turns some people off these days. For some reason, he calls himself &quot;Savage&quot; in the forums, and he talks a lot about BDSM. I have no prob with that (in fact, I&#039;m a fan of sex advice columnist Dan Savage, who often talks about it). But coming from his geeky perspective - as a pasty white guy who spent much of his life in a monogamous, possibly sex-less marriage - it&#039;s weird how he&#039;s suddenly able to preach to the masses about nontraditional relationships and kinky sex. 

Back when I was more of a fan, I read his book. He&#039;s a unique thinker, but I think it was at this time when I started to realize his material doesn&#039;t amount to anything more than &quot;mental masturbation.&quot;

The 7 principles (I THINKit was 7) specified in his book, which he used to harp on for a while in his blog, never stuck with me. I&#039;m not sure why - they just struck me as something that probably should have been distilled into something simpler. Maybe there are people still going around asking how a certain experience or decision reflects those 7 principles, but not me. 

Anyway Scott, I don&#039;t think Pavlina should be dismissed because he is an ex-Scientologist. He specified that he tried it for just a couple of months, and you have to respect that he had an open mind. I know that Scientologists believe some crazy stuff, but I think at the entry-level stage, you&#039;re just taught some empowering, pseudo-science that may be a useful framework for conducting your life (I&#039;m just guessing). He says that he went in knowing that they believe some off-the-wall stuff (remember, you don&#039;t learn the super crazy stuff until you&#039;re more advanced). So I think he can be forgiven.

I hadn&#039;t intended to write so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott, I enjoyed the article. Yes, I think Steve is &#8220;wrong&#8221; about diet. Here is a post by an individual who became almost deathly ill after following Steve&#8217;s diet: <a href="http://paleodietlifestyle.com/how-steve-pavlina-almost-killed-me/" rel="nofollow">http://paleodietlifestyle.com/how-steve-pavlina-almost-killed-me/</a></p>
<p>Of course, one case of an over-eager Pavlina follower doesn&#8217;t condemn a whole lifestyle, but many prominent vegans and raw food proponents are reversing their stance on  animal products (I&#8217;m too lazy to provide links, but I read about this at length and the info is out there). </p>
<p>People get very sensitive about the dietary lifestyle they commit to, especially when ethics and animal rights are concerned, so I usually decline to engage in that discussion.</p>
<p>Steve has a different take on the Law of Attraction and all that jazz, but I don&#8217;t think it gets people any closer to their goals.<br />
Unfortunately, his forums are filled with a bunch of people determined to become millionaires, but with very little clue as to how to go about it (besides putting an inspiring statement about it in their forum signature).</p>
<p>Steve turns some people off these days. For some reason, he calls himself &#8220;Savage&#8221; in the forums, and he talks a lot about BDSM. I have no prob with that (in fact, I&#8217;m a fan of sex advice columnist Dan Savage, who often talks about it). But coming from his geeky perspective &#8211; as a pasty white guy who spent much of his life in a monogamous, possibly sex-less marriage &#8211; it&#8217;s weird how he&#8217;s suddenly able to preach to the masses about nontraditional relationships and kinky sex. </p>
<p>Back when I was more of a fan, I read his book. He&#8217;s a unique thinker, but I think it was at this time when I started to realize his material doesn&#8217;t amount to anything more than &#8220;mental masturbation.&#8221;</p>
<p>The 7 principles (I THINKit was 7) specified in his book, which he used to harp on for a while in his blog, never stuck with me. I&#8217;m not sure why &#8211; they just struck me as something that probably should have been distilled into something simpler. Maybe there are people still going around asking how a certain experience or decision reflects those 7 principles, but not me. </p>
<p>Anyway Scott, I don&#8217;t think Pavlina should be dismissed because he is an ex-Scientologist. He specified that he tried it for just a couple of months, and you have to respect that he had an open mind. I know that Scientologists believe some crazy stuff, but I think at the entry-level stage, you&#8217;re just taught some empowering, pseudo-science that may be a useful framework for conducting your life (I&#8217;m just guessing). He says that he went in knowing that they believe some off-the-wall stuff (remember, you don&#8217;t learn the super crazy stuff until you&#8217;re more advanced). So I think he can be forgiven.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t intended to write so much!</p>
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